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You ever have sequences where things happen and click and they all lead to something? lol well that's this case. Russ and I watched a movie recently so it got me to thinking about Coma patients and Travel to different planes. Are those people in a sense stuck?? Something so intensely traumatic happens in someones life that it throws them into a state where they are in a diff plane, maybe even unaware of it... and then it got me to thinking well what if that's how it is anyways? Perception is different for everyone but what if we're all on this plane on Earth yet when we die we're on our TRUE plane? Does one plane pull at people more so than others? Is there one more...grounded than the other, a starting point? They're all integrated right? In everyone's life yet some more so and stronger than others? I'm not exactly sure how it all works, makes my head hurt trying to figure it out! lol but The movie got me curious.
Here's some information I found but feel free to share as well, your thoughts or information.
Question: My question pertains to the comatose state. Could you give your opinion on comas and whether or not you believe there’s a connection between the consciousness of a coma patient and the astral plane? Despite the fact most patients appear unresponsive, is their consciousness fully aware and possibly traveling outside the body? – Sheena
Answer: I absolutely believe comas provide the means for a patient’s awareness to pursue nonphysical realms. However, I can’t say for certain they are actually spending time on the astral plane. I feel the term astral plane has become a sort of catch all for anything deemed nonphysical, but I do believe the coma patient’s consciousness is extremely busy exploring other avenues of existence.
If we have what many call a higher self (and I believe we do), then that higher self has the ability to extend into many other environments while its focus vehicle rests in a hospital bed, or anywhere else for that matter. I actually believe our higher self is focusing upon several states of existence and physical vehicles simultaneously, at all times, but we are only aware of this one specific personality with which we primarily identify. I spoke about this theory in Altered States of Consciousness & Aspects of Awareness.
If we think of a coma in terms of a really deep state of sleep, then we can more easily understand the manner in which our consciousness shifts its focus away from the physical body. I believe the dream environments we encounter on a nightly basis are evidence of the voyages our awareness takes while our bodies are at rest. The coma would be very similar to this, only from a deeper point of “suspended animation,” regarding the patient’s body.
Now, based on your question, it sounds like you may also be asking why people go into comas from a metaphysical standpoint? This I can’t be certain about, but I believe comas may be a way for the higher self to protect the focus personality and the physical vehicle belonging to the comatose patient. This may be just as true of medically induced comas as it is of those resulting from accidents or medical conditions.
If our higher awareness feels it’s in our best interest, especially if someone has undergone some traumatic event, then these events may be better dealt with by withdrawing a portion of awareness from the physical shell. This allows the physical body to tend to itself while the personality, we associate with that body, explores further into other states of being.
The bottom line is those individuals that have entered into comas are absolutely fine. Our conscious awareness transcends this plane of time and space along with the physical vehicle, whether someone is asleep, in a coma, experiencing an altered state, or has passed on.
Transcending is an easy concept to toss around, but it’s not easy to imagine or understand if we haven’t actually been completely, consciously aware during our dreams or other altered states. If we are capable of retaining consciousness during out of body experiences or becoming lucid during dreams, then we are provided with a window into a truer nature of who we are; and often times, in a way that’s far more meaningful than our waking reality.
An individual that has entered into a coma is doing so for a reason that is beneficial for them at a deeper level of their being, but what that reason is can only be considered conjecture, to a certain extent, on my part. However, you are absolutely on the right track in considering that comas and astral projection have something in common. They both share the common bond of the expansive experience of our awareness beyond the physical body.
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Part of the Magick in Theory & Practice series.
Astral projection is a generic term for an "out of body experience" (OOBE) common to many occult and spiritual disciplines whereby the "consciousness" of a person leaves the physical or corporeal body and apparently travels either within the physical world independent of the corporeal body or to other non-physical realms. Astral Projection as a generic term includes such specific phenomena as lucid dreaming and the mystical exercise referred to as Rising on the Planes.
As a spiritual experience, astral projection may even be referenced in the Christian/Jewish Bible:
"Remember [your Creator] — before the silver cord is severed, or the golden bowl is broken; before the pitcher is shattered at the spring, or the wheel broken at the well, and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it."
The verse refers to an observation common to many manifestations of astral projection: that the "astral body" (the part of consciousness that leaves the corporeal body) is connected to the physical body by a silver or golden cord. Some disciplines teach that if this cord is severed, the soul will separate from the body and physical death or coma will result.
The process of astral projection is usually fairly simple: the practitioner enters a state of relaxation, usually through meditation, sometimes aided by music, chanting or, less frequently, by drugs; he or she envisions a double of his or her body next to the position he or she is in; he or she then transfers her senses and consciousness to the visualized double—the astral body, or Body of Light, as Crowley called it, and the astral body then travels wherever the practitioner wants it to go.
Aleister Crowley strongly advocates traveling in the Body of Light as one of the fundamental tools of Thelema. Chapter XIII of Magick in Theory and Practice describes in detail with "The Body of Light, Its Power and Development" and contains practical instruction on forming the Body of Light:
The first thing to do, therefore, is to get the body outside your own. To avoid muddling the two, you begin by imagining a shape resembling yourself standing in front of you. Do not say: "Oh, it's only imagination!" The time to test that is later on, when you have secured a fairly clear mental image of such a body. Try to imagine how your own body would look if you were standing in its place; try to transfer your consciousness to the Body of Light. Your own body has its eyes shut. Use the eyes of the Body of Light to describe the objects in the room behind you. Don't say. "It's only an effort of subconscious memory" ... the time to test that is later on.
Most rituals described by Crowley are to be done in the Body of Light, as are many other inititation rites. Indeed, Crowley admonishes Thelemites to "[t]ravel also much in the Empyrean in the Body of Light, seeking ever Abodes more fiery and lucid" in Liber Aleph. So the practicing Thelemite must master "astral projection"—travel in the Body of Light—as an essential method in discovery of his or her True Will, a method "easy, agreeable, not tedious, and in the end...certain..." (Liber CL, De Lege Libellum)
It is interesting to hear your story. I had a simmilar experience when I was stung by a bee. I am very allergic to them and when I was at the hospitol, the staff was treating me and I recall hearing the doctor say she was loosing me and was frantic. She warmed up the paddels to zapp me. I remember doing the same thing you did, I was trying to communicate with them and tell them I was here, I was not dead. I remember that when the doctor was warming up the paddels, I was shouting to her not to "hit me", obviously she did not hear me because I seen her below me as she laid the paddels on me and all I could recall saying to myself was, "sh$#@, this is going to f&%$#$g hurt." It was incredible, she hit me and I did not feel anything other than being drawn back. It was only a matter of minutes and I was almost back to normal and functioning. The whole ordeel was several minutes long and I must have gone out of myself and observing and talking to the staff, but no one was responding back to me untill I was hit with the defibulator. I talked to the doctor afterwards and told her what I was going through and how I tried to talk with them. She told me, "Hon, you were gone, we werte doing all we could to get you back, and we are glad we did." I have had other experiences simmilar to this while what I call "jumping", latter it was discribed to me that I was astral projecting. I have done this many times and been to many places and time periods. Others I talked to and told them I had a dream about them, they surpriseingly said they also had a dream about me and I was there in a sort of spirit form or aura, and translucent.